Fascinating conversation - it's a topic I think many who cover hate have wondered about but not everyone has had clear answers to. Thank you for your coverage!
It was thoughtful and insightful to hear that the intertwining of multiple ancient histories was and is used to reinforce supremacist ideologies and the notion of perceived ancient origins of whiteness within early civilizations. Thanks for this critical conversation.
Simply fantastic. Though I was trained in medieval history rather than ancient, I taught college courses on the ancient world. It always amazed me, how desperately 19th century scholars wanted to connect themselves to the Greeks and Romans.
One thing that didn't come up: how knowledge of classical languages and authors was a marker of class. Up to and beyond the early 20th century, someone's ability to read classical authors in their original language and to memorize marked them as an elite. Part of the reaction against "classical education" that is still going on in American universities was the feeling that this knowledge wasn't terribly practical or useful.
This is not new. I am 76 my high teachers talked about the decline and fall of ancient Rome and comparing it to the United States. Also a lot of talk about the gay masculinity culture of Sparta and Alexander the Great who conquered the Greeks.
Fascinating conversation - it's a topic I think many who cover hate have wondered about but not everyone has had clear answers to. Thank you for your coverage!
It was thoughtful and insightful to hear that the intertwining of multiple ancient histories was and is used to reinforce supremacist ideologies and the notion of perceived ancient origins of whiteness within early civilizations. Thanks for this critical conversation.
Great discussion! Thank you Kahlil and Prof Dozier!
Simply fantastic. Though I was trained in medieval history rather than ancient, I taught college courses on the ancient world. It always amazed me, how desperately 19th century scholars wanted to connect themselves to the Greeks and Romans.
One thing that didn't come up: how knowledge of classical languages and authors was a marker of class. Up to and beyond the early 20th century, someone's ability to read classical authors in their original language and to memorize marked them as an elite. Part of the reaction against "classical education" that is still going on in American universities was the feeling that this knowledge wasn't terribly practical or useful.
All the rampant butt fucking and dick sucking. The majority of white nationalist men are punk ass closet cases
This is not new. I am 76 my high teachers talked about the decline and fall of ancient Rome and comparing it to the United States. Also a lot of talk about the gay masculinity culture of Sparta and Alexander the Great who conquered the Greeks.
yea
Williw Creek, California
Cleopatra was of Greek descent.
Macedonian, actually. But we have no way of knowing how that descent was expressed in her skin color.
How about the real history of the western hemisphere prior to white supremists.
oregon
Cleveland, Ohio
yes!!
Sorry I missed the live broadcast. Always interesting, Kahlil. Thank you.
Obviously, the access to boys and olive oil.
Watching from Delaware, USA